Dylan: Not many No. 1 songs are bad, I feel like.

Puja: I don’t want to like, litigate Imagine Dragons with you right now, but I would argue that there are some.

Dylan: You wanna do that?

Puja: I would argue there are some No. 1 songs that have not been good.

Dylan: Which one?

Puja: Not 'Radioactive.' What’s the other one?

Dylan: 'Thunder'?

Puja: Yes.

Dylan: If one of my friends made 'Thunder,' I would be like, 'you are super good at making music and should definitely pursue this.' Like, 'this is hella good.' There’s no way you can hear 'Thunder' on a big-ass system and be like, 'that song fucking sucks.'

Laura: Dylan’s metric for what is a good song is so great. You can be like, 'I don’t know if I love that song' or whatever. And Dylan’s like, 'if you were listening to this on a huge sound system and your friend made it and you were hearing it, you wouldn't be like, 'wow, this is great?'

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